Common > Chickens? Or just no skill? 

>pdj

last warning? lol,

should i scare from your empty threats?

do your best, i wonder what should full of noobs/lamest clan of nc can do??

even your clan leader have a little girl's name.. very scary..

Dont say you havent been warned.

Lesath and Point dexter jr,

Take it easy please, I am looking forward to receive more advices on how to kill a mage and finally spend my money :) No use to argue here, ok?

Penny, I enjoy reading clear facts & statistics though I can not agree with everything you said.
Anyway, your point of view is taken into consideration and appreciated very much.

Are there any other suggestions??

> Trollkarl

Referring to everything mentionned previously... we still would like to hear advices from experienced fighters about winning the battles in logs we gave you.

For those, who try to provocate each other to a conflict or abuse other people & or guild please do these things in your private chat. This is serious topic, indeed.

My turn to cry.....

Im sick of warriors getting dodge and block maneuvers for free in fights, i think this is a bug that needs fixed.

1st fight

http://newcapital.combats.com/logs.pl?log=1251893143.68618&p=all...

In this fight Reveal Tactics was used against me.... Reveal Tactics needs 2 blocks
If you look in the Fight Statistics you will see that no blocks were made in the fight

2nd fight

http://newcapital.combats.com/logs.pl?log=1252171884.55845&p=all...

In this fight Shocking Hit was used against me... Shocking Hit needs 1 dodge
In the Fight Statistics no dodges were made, also no spells were "dodged"

I maybe missing something very simple so all comments are welcome

thank you

peace out

> Im sick of warriors getting dodge and block maneuvers for
> free in fights, i think this is a bug that needs fixed.


+1

help, it took a couple of minutes to highlight the following:

http://newcapital.combats.com/logs.pl?log=1252168625.40674&p=1...

20:48 Crazy Simba thought about and in a result cruel help parried with beautiful staff strike with handle of sword in heart.

20:49 Trollkarl tried to make a hit, but help parried staff blow with edge of sword in shank.

20:50 Trollkarl went wrong and help parried staff strike with butt of axe in belt.

How many "parry" points did you have according to statistics?

Another one
http://newcapital.combats.com/logs.pl?log=1252008634.04447&p=2...

00:22 Crazy Simba deceived himself and help escaped from a strike of with sharp sword in left side

00:23 Trollkarl made an effort to make a strike, but help parried staff hit with small axe-handle in sacrum.

And just a few minures ago

   http://newcapital.combats.com/logs.pl?log=1252181070.23354...

00:23
Dianocka was thinking about something else and thoughtful help parried staff strike with sharp sword in crown.

Take it a it is. This topic is not for crying, it is about killing a mage. Create your own and name it "to   kill a warrior" a feel all right.

Dear friends, as stated earlier by Aurax, your ideas are welcome.

by the looks of it from what iv seen EVERY PERSON in game has a base parry and dodge %...... also other stats.

no matter how much parry, anti dodging your opponent has your parry and dodge will never fall below a set figure...

i guess admins put this into the game so a tank with say 300 anti dodging still has a small chance against a dodger with 1000 dodging

once again if this is wrong please correct me

Where did you find any words about you having no parry modification?
Take a look a statistic? you didn't parry anything according to it. besides, you refer to in your message.

ok so the parried blows dont show up in the fight statistics.

read through the 2 logs i posts and tell me how my oppenents got the dodges and blocks

so take away the fact that the statistics dont show dodges and blocks.... the fact that still remains is that the warriors got maneuvers that they shouldnt have.

the first fight i cast an offensive spell every turn but he still got block maneuvers...ponder

Sometimes warriors dodge, sometimes mages parry hits. I have already advised to let it be and suggest to do it once again. That's not the point in this thread and we can not influence it. Well there is a way, post it here:
http://forum.combats.com/ncap_forum.pl?n=bugrep...

Besides, look here:
http://forum.combats.com/ncap_forum.pl?id=1250371293&n=index...

01:15 [Spoon] private [ point dexter jr ] When i hit a mage, it always randomly either gives a block manuever, a parry or a counter.

Because when we hit the mage, we choose a block anyway so I guess your opponent received a counter point and used shock maneuver.

il tell you what.....lets bring in the no mage comment...... let afew ppl get the ecr dodger items (lv 8+9) 1200% dodging and 65% parry... il take a guess and what the next topic will be about....

I think you are a bit upset mate. what is it? Fight club. Do I like mages? - No! Do I have to like mages? No.
I do not inspire anyone to comments "without mages". I do not follow this silly "2w" comment either.
Read once again the first message from Penny and make a conclusion. You, mages 8lvl are stronger than 8 lvls and many 9 lvl warriors. So I am looking for a way to beat you using not only "hit&block"+ "shadow defence" option as we are used to but I want anyone to show me a reasonable tactics against mages.

and we do think it up just follow the discussion and you ll get the point. The fact   that this thread has already four pages means that people are interested in this issue.

of course we do not think it up....

"I think you are a bit upset mate"

im not upset, if you remember i play a mage

i kill you all lol

"I think you are a bit upset mate"

im not upset, if you remember i play a mage

i kill you all lol

STEREOTYPE!!!

Also i think that this has gone off topic, it started as "Using anti-mage comments are wrong" and it ended up "how to kill a mage" and a bit "are mages better than other players"

Now my oppinion about all the 3 subjects of this topic is:

1) Penny is right, there should be no "NO MAGE OR CRIPPLE" comments, this is just stupidity.

2) What i use to kill a mage is Shadow defence, shadow air, fire, water or earth, clear with blood, shocking hit, spurt, maybe a defense maneuver cause u get blocks

3 Mages are very well killable, you all just take the wrong example.. help is not the example to take because his set costs 416 ECR, and its pretty much obvious that someone who's spent 416 ECR should be able to kill someone who has CR items...
Here are some logs with CR mages :
http://newcapital.combats.com/logs.pl?log=1251757815.77695...
http://newcapital.combats.com/logs.pl?log=1251668385.58645...
http://newcapital.combats.com/logs.pl?log=1248029972.86823&p=all...
http://newcapital.combats.com/logs.pl?log=1247881341.0555&p=all...
http://newcapital.combats.com/logs.pl?log=1251150178.46894&p=all...

So as you see all the other mages are killable... tell me if im mistaking, please!

> help

Though it is not about the subject I can give you some answers.

About this random receiving of parry, counter-strike and block tactics. Fighting against a mage is a bit strange. (Let's see for an example 1 vs 1 fight) Mages use all of spell-maneuvers available for them. As other tactics you can use spirit points, blood maneuvers. The rest of tactics depend on, if you exchange blows like in a regular weapon fight like a fighter, not a mage.
Unfortunately, warriors, who fight against mages, can receive and use only spirit point tactics, succesfull hit tactics, critical hit tactics and blood tactics depending on the type of player you are and on the damage you deal in the battles. As this would be unfair to some certain types of fighters, some things work differently.
After casting a spell, it shows like: 00:55 help used his turn to cast a spell. This is considered as a full exchange. For this reason, we cannot receive counter-strike, parry and block tactics, while fighting against you, we receive random tactic in 1 of these. The same thing happens, if you skip turns. This was done to make sure there is a normal way to try fighting against you. Otherwise it is just impossible.

+ about the parrying. Calculation for parrying blows is: Your chance of parrying - opponents chance of parrying = total chance to parry a blow. If I am right, you should have 0% of parry, so imo it is weird you can parry at all. About dodging it is obvious as every player has a certain number of absolute chance to dodge a hit or deal a critical strike.

Crazy Simba,
Your words do make sense, though all examples you gave here are 1vs1.
I am sure that warriors chose carefully their maneuveres before fighting the mages as tactics is pretty much different.
We can not predict who you will face in chaotic: fire, earth or air mage. As well as I have favourite maneuvers against critters and sure that critters and tanks prefer smth else.
Anyway my goal was to draw attention to the matter and I have succedeed.
People really start using a simple tactics and hopefully we will have its natural progress in the near future.

Those fights I mentioned earlier couldn't be won to my mind or at least noone could find a proper way.

As a conslusion I couldn't choose the winner and decided to share 100 CR beween Penny and Crazy Simba. Thanks for you input.

50.00 cr. transferred successfully to Penny

50.00 cr. transferred successfully to Crazy Simba